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	<title>Old iron never dies... just run linux on it!</title>
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	<description>Heh, I&apos;d had several old PowerMac machines with no useful purpose any longer. So on a lark I grabbed the...</description> 

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	<dc:date>2003-09-14T13:14:41-05:00</dc:date> 
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	<dcterms:abstract>Heh, I&apos;d had several old PowerMac machines with no useful purpose any longer. So on a lark I grabbed the...</dcterms:abstract> 
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	<mt:body><![CDATA[<p>Heh, I'd had several old PowerMac machines with no useful purpose any longer.  So on a lark I grabbed the latest <a href="http://www.yellowdoglinux.com">Yellow Dog Linux</a> ISO images, burned the three CDs and went to town.</p>]]></mt:body>
	<mt:excerpt>Heh, I&apos;d had several old PowerMac machines with no useful purpose any longer. So on a lark I grabbed the...</mt:excerpt> 
	<mt:more><![CDATA[<p>The end result now has YDL-3.0 running on them.  BogoMips reports a molasses-like rating of 166, but whaddya expect from a 250mHz PPC 603e? </p>

<p>The install was smooth (it's basically just RedHat 9) and it managed to figure out the hardware pretty well.  I didn't delve into printing but I've heard good things about using cups.</p>

<p>What's even cooler is they really run <a href="http://www.rdesktop.org">rdesktop</a> at a quite decent speed.  So they can be used as remote terminals to Windows boxes (or regular X and VNC sessions).  </p>

<p>They're noticeably slow at doing local tasks so don't expect amazing things here.  Even with 128mb of RAM and a 4gb disc the performance of locally-run applications has a lot of delays.  Using monochome instead of full-color (16 bit) might help as the video hardware is totally un-accelerated.  But where's the fun in that?  </p>

<p>Yes, you can get by if you're running simple stuff.  If you've no other box then these would certainly work.  If you're looking to get into server-oriented linux stuff like running a web, dns, mail or news server these boxes do fine.  If you want to get into graphic user interface stuff you'll being trying your patience on these old boxes.</p>

<p>There doesn't seem to be anyone that's tried or gotten the video in/out cards working.  Not a big surprise as A/V subsystems on Macs are all pretty different from one generation to the next.  That and Apple's not known for being very forthcoming with hardware details. </p>

<p>There are options for ancient 68k-based Macs but I gave mine away ages ago.  Hardware support for them was pretty sparse, not to mention being s-l-o-w as can be.  STFW for details if you're into that (don't ask me).</p>

<p>So if you've got an old PowerPC-based Macintosh lying around and you want to experiment with linux then give YDL a try.  Especially if you just want to have a spare box to run some lightweight server stuff for a home network. </p>]]></mt:more>
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	<mt:authorNickname>Bill Kearney</mt:authorNickname> 
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